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2017 Speculation ( Great Escape)

Discussion in 'Great Escape Chatter' started by MetsFan, Jul 24, 2016.

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What will our 2017 addition be?

  1. Water Park Expansion

    8 vote(s)
    44.4%
  2. New Coaster

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Family Flat Ride

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  4. Kiddie Ride

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  5. New Show or Nothing Much

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Other

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. mrceagle

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    I could see SFNE getting water park but why remove SWF if the parks gettign a water park attraction. The last thing they need to be doing is removing a dry park attraction and expanding the water park inwards. they have plenty of space they ca expand outwards into the parking lot.

    I could see 1 or 2 family flats that's around a million and a slide tower back to the one wet one wild marketing
  2. Sluggo77

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    SFNE is getting a 4D. Check out the 2017 thread.
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    Anymore hints at all for GE?
  3. MetsFan

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    Hopefully something soon... The park doesn't usually go to the board until well after the announcement date so we probably won't get any info from town documents :(
  4. mrceagle

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    Yes for some reason there are 2 threads with the same name and I posted here before I saw the news. As for GE don't expect much if there are blowing a crap load of money at SFNE.
  5. WiCy#1

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    I was getting confused too. I know it's in the GE subforum, but I changed the thread title for clarification for people who find threads through the "New Posts" page.
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  6. mrceagle

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    I get in through the new posts tab. it's faster then looking through each forum section.

    I honestly hope that TGE doesn't get neglected. I just have a feeling that the company won;t want to do anything that might take away form SFNE so TGE might get something lower key so that they get something but it doesn't pull from SFNE.
  7. tge98

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    In retrospect I've been really happy with the additions in the past few years. Other than Buccaneer Beach I think they all were solid additions. I wish they would fill in the two pads that are empty, The Old Ballon race Pad down by Sasquatch and season pass processing, Plus the old trabant spot. In a perfect world I wish they would also add a small star flyer like discovery kingdoms model (150ft) , in flying trapeze spot.

    That is obviously too much for one year but if they filled all of those holes I'd be so happy. I also wouldn't mind seeing one of those disco half pipe rides right next to sky coaster.



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    So I made a map of what I was talking about. If I had my way this is what I would do.
    Red: Trabants old spot: I wish they would put a chance wipeout right there.
    Blue: Balloon Race's old spot: I don't know if an air race would fit there but I think they should have a cool ride there.
    Purple: Flying tapezes spot: 150ft star flyer
    Yellow: A disco half pipe

    In reality I really hope they do a star flyer for 2017 but I could also see something in the water park
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  8. Phillie26

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    I too would love that..I looked into the air race a little more and the one model that would fit perfectly on that pad is the 6.2 model which seats 12 and has a theoretical capacity of 240 pph
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  9. MetsFan

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    Lots of good ideas @tge98 .... Especially Balloon Race's spot. It looks so bad. I think Flying Trapeze needs to go whether they get it fixed or not. It's so ugly.

    This year should be a good indicator of where the park is at attendance wise. It's been a season with very little rain, it's been crowded day in and day out, etc. If they don't post a strong attendance number this year then I'd say we're locked into our pattern of year after year of diasspointment. Not saying a stronger year would convince corporate to give us a giga-coaster LOL but a strong year would at least show corporate there's potential with the park.
  10. tge98

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    Especially with a 2016 addition that is for the most part larger than anything we've received in years. It's certainly the most expensive since at least Alpine Free Falls. The two or three times I've been this year, it has been crowded like you said. Hopefully that shows that if they invest just a little bit they can get returns from this park. I mean could they really think that throwing in 200,000 dollar flat rides every year really isn't going to bump attendance.

    I've said this before but their coasters are really getting old... I mean in 2018 Steamin Demon will be 40 years old (it was relocated to great escape in 1984 but opened in 78 originally.) Canyon Blaster will be 45 years old in 2017. Bobsled will be 33 years old. Boomerang will be 20 years old in 2018. We all know Comet's age. I mean what other park has 6 modern coasters that add up to 207 years of operation. The coasters of great escape have an average age of 34 years. Like that's crazy. I mean obviously Comet is going to live on forever. I rode Canyon Blaster the other day and it still rides well so it has a good amount of life left in it's tank. The only way CB would close is because of lack of ridership. After those two it gets kind of shaky as Bobsled doesn't have much life left in it. Steamin Demon is rough as always (although it's gotten new life with VR) Boomerang is running well, one of the better boomerangs but it is safe to assume it's going to get rougher eventually.

    I typed all of that out just to show that we need a new coaster!!
  11. mrceagle

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    There are some interesting ideas there but not all that creative. TGE has a specific feel why through in more generic crap. Personally I hat the star flyers they aren't all that great and the capacity is not that great. I think the Mega Disco is a good idea but the rest could be better thought out.
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    ^maybe there are better ideas but this park really needs something. For us it isn't even a full day park and we had not been there since 2009 when we went in July. All Six Flags parks should be full day parks. SF treats this park the way CF treats Michigan's Adventure with nothing or leftovers.
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  13. mrceagle

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    I agree completely. TGE is an extra property they use to generate funds so they can add expensive coasters to SFNE and SFGAdv. They treat it like a water park not like a Amusement or theme park.

    But if they are goign to put 4-5 million in is a star flyer a good idea. They do need to fill in those holes though. but why not look for additions that are more unique.

    Instead of a Whip out Why not get a more updated replacement like Quassy's Reverse time. Only down fall with wither option is they are not easily themed. That Spot is in a English themed area So Maybe they can figure out an addition that actually adds to the areas theme

    A disco would be a great addition though it's very similar to Super nova So why not get a disco coaster instead. It would be truly unique to the park and the north east.

    Balloon races open spot is actually part of the story town area. It wold be great if a replacement fit that theme. also they have a thrilling flat across the stream.

    Trapeze is a difficult spot. anything bigger then it would require them to build up a the area it's also tucked behind the Sky ride which leaves little room for queue for a major addition.
  14. tge98

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    I will say they have been adding to the actual theme park a lot more in recent years.

    I get what you're saying about the star flyer but I disagree about them not being unique. TBH I would agree if it was just the ride experience but I don't ride the star flyers for the actual ride I ride them for the views. Like I'll ride Great Adventures and then New Englands over and over again because they give diffrent views. Every park and surrounding area is different, so a star flyer will ride and feel different. I just think if you put a star flyer on that perch where Trampeze is, it'll be one of the better swing rides. It is up on a steep hill, and once you get over the trees you would have great views of the whole park.

    I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said Disco. I meant disco coaster like what CP just added last year.

    Ballon Races spot is a relatively large pad for a flat. That's why I thought it should be a thrill flat. With the coaster TGE has I don't think they can have TOO many thrill flats. But A family ride would be nice, maybe something like Harley Quinns spincanity at over Texas or something like spincanity at Fiesta Texas.

    I also Disagree with Trapeeze spot there is a lot of room for extended queue up there.The skyride is close but not that close. Trasp.png
    I took a 3D image from google earth of the spot. The yellow is the ride envelope give or take a little bit. The purple area is flat but I think it might be a access road if a remember correctly. If the access road is not needed/ isn't one in the first place That could be all queue.

    The Orange is all unused space which could definitely be queue and wouldn't disrupt anything else. If they just slightly change the entrance and exit of the skyride to utilize the grass on the very left hand side of the pic they could gain a lot more space for queue. They could extend way closer towards blizzard. Lets say they only make queue in the orange area, it would be more queue area than Screamin Eagles, Supernova, and greesed lighting have.
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  15. mrceagle

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    Star Flyer is much better then a yo yo, so much of your marked off area woudl have to be ride space. and if all you care about is the view when why not just add an observation tower which woudl hold more people and have pretty much no ride restriction allowing the parks key demographic to use the attraction.

    Yes I did misunderstand about the disco since i also suggested the coaster option as a more unique addition.

    I think a Tilt a whirl could be a great addition to the old Tribant spot. Was thinking about it the other night though I had posted it. I think the new GC cars might be a bit more unique and could be painted to fit the areas theme.

    Which still leaves Balloon races old spot. A Tronka is a good idea a large one wouldn't fit but the smaller option Huss still caries would likely fit and look at the butterfly themed one at Hard rock. it would fit in the Story town area and could open up an excuse to rehab the area a bit.
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