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Does SFNE Have Anywhere to Expand to?

Discussion in 'SFNE Future Discussion' started by Alex, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Batman3239

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    I don't think gas lines can be moved. If the line isn't too deep they could just build a pathway over it (with no rides or anything that needs foundation or footers that would interfere with it), but if was only a few feet under the ground then we can forget that idea. It should be pretty deep if it runs under the river.
  2. canobie#1

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    Gas lines can be moved. The real problem is that it costs a lot of money and instead of having the water park there, they could put employee parking and have a shuttle back. No need for gas line re location and tons of money saved.
  3. mrceagle

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    relocating the gas line is cost prohibitive. The park still has blueprints for a redevelopment of that area for park services use. given the buffer zone and the fact there are houses ride there water park is the only practical use besides park Backstage.

    as for the 30 acres in CT, yes they do own land it's on the other side of the housing. I'm not sure of the zoning so what can be done with it, I'm not completely sure. they lease it out to be farmed at the moment.

    Personally i had always wanted to see a hotel and campground developed on the site.
  4. Michael J. Gallant

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    Why Can't Peter Pan move their drop point to the place where other folks drop off at, the one near the bridge?

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  5. WiCy#1

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    ^I don't know what's up with your attachments but I can't see them. Can you try uploading them to an external site like Photobucket and embedding them to the site using the tags?
  6. Jake

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    I think that gas pipeline is 10+ feet underground before getting close to the river, and it gets deeper closer im sure. Im not sure what the depth of the river is but im going to assume the pipeline goes below it by at least 5 or 6 feet at the deepest point. If they have blueprints for park services I am assuming there keeping them because even tearing rides down, there isnt much space and it might be needed in a few years. Who knows though, Im sure they can get the housing rezoned and buy that land if the attendance massively increases, but chances are in the next 10 years it decreases, there is developers looking to put amusement parks in Rhode Island and Connecticut so that may kill 50% of there business if they get approved, but those would also be years down the line. I bet in 10 years six flags will redo alot of the park, since if they keep adding like they have in the past few years they wont have a major lack of space till then.
  7. Albo5000

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    I know that access is limited and there is probably a decent amount of profit from its current use, but why not expand north in the picnic grove area. I assume private picnic space and Freight Fest are far more important than using the space for expansion. I personally wouldn't mind seeing the entire water park removed or moved to a different location (such as how Great Escape has theirs) but that isn't happening anytime soon.

    Attached would be my personal recommendations-
    • Circled in Red- Offer that farmer a nice chunk of money ($500,000 maybe) and move the water park there. Boom, now the water park area can be developed, that's possibly 1/3 of the existing park space alone
    • Circled in Blue- Deforestation anyone, I bet you could fit a half dozen flat rides, maybe a dark ride, and a coaster or two here.
    • Circled in Green- Half that neighborhood hates their lives currently between April and November already. The rest of the year they are shoveling snow so they are probably miserable during that time as well. Offer each household some money to tear down their houses and expand that way. Half the houses are for sale anyways and the other half look uninhabitable.

    Lets face it, Agawam would do anything for Six Flags in terms of zoning, by the time they acquired the said properties, they could have the zoning changed to benefit their growth.

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  8. tge98

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    Moving the entire water park is never gonna happen. We coaster entushiasts don't see the water park as valuable but I would say more people go for the water park than the actual park. Also just so you know even if they were to move the water park it would take far more than 500,000 it would be millions and millions.

    And I don't know what you mean when you mention great escape. Their waterpark is the same as SFNE its connected to the park on site
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  9. Albo5000

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    By no means do I think a waterpark would cost half $1 million. I'm just saying buy the land from that farmer and I could imagine that being half $1 million.
  10. canobie#1

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    ^More than that.

    Plus the forest behind blizard river is mostly wet lands so that's a no go until they can work with the enviormental freaks to get access to fill it.
  11. BizarroAj

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    your not thinking 3 dimensional, there is plenty of room to expand, "UP" :)
  12. Albo5000

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    I didn't mean behind blizzard river, I mean down the path behind the kids area in the north end. Behind blizzard river is a ravine of sorts. Unless you did what lake compounce did with boulder dash and incorporated a coaster into the terrain but we all know that would never work. AndTGE98, maybe I was mistaken but I thought escape had a separate water park. Maybe it's great adventure that I was thinking about. Either way I wouldn't mind the water park going off site. Didn't someone say six flags had 30 acres in ct? Let's get CT on board with a new water park.
  13. canobie#1

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    ^Different state, different laws and bills to deal with. No thanks.o_O
  14. mrceagle

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    The red option has been a day dream of mine for quite sum time but totally impractical. It would cost upwards a million for that much land and your talking about putting a farmer out of business so you have to figure in what his business is worth. so your looking at 5-10 million figure this farmer will want to retire early.

    Blue this area is horrible. Wet lands, Flood zone, steep will, no solid support. Blizzard had it's hill collapse a few years ago. so nothings gettign built on that hill. they could build it up add a bit more room for flats but that's about it. The park needs X amount of green space that forest area around the picnic grove provides most of that as well as creating a buffer zone.

    The green well this is a very costly endeavor but the most practical. Why because while very coslty it's on the parks ride side and it woudl bring them closer to an eventually connect then to a plot of land they own in CT. Costs Millions. you looking at 30+ houses ate 250K if not more a piece. 7.5 + . Construction cost to level the houses. that's only after they get then rezoned which will not be until they buy most if not all of them. till then they will pay taxes on those houses at value. which will go up because as they buy houses owners will start demanding more. Also your looking at a lot of time to buy enough houses to be effective. People are not going to just sell and run off. so thy could take upwards a decade or more.
  15. Albo5000

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    I could wait a decade for a farmer to realize he wants to sell his business and for a bunch of neighbors to realize that selling their houses to six flags would make them more money than on the real estate market. Wishful thinking.

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